I got my packet for the Kleen-Rite Corp seminar and expo. If Pennsylvania was not so far away I would go. I really think that SECWA or other regional shows should watch out: the only thing this Kleen-Rite show doesn’t have is heavy equipment vendors (but the SECWA show just started having heavy equipment around 5 years ago). The next step would be the exhibitors colluding to form their own show and ditching all the regional meetings. But this seems like a great seminar / expo for self serve owners. The seminars that they are having sound better then what the ICA show had.